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E3D PZ Probe

That would be because it was released today. Give it a couple weeks and first impression reviews will start popping up.
 
Looks okay but sorta late to the party. Beacon is so fast compared to something probing the bed.
 
NoGuru said:
Looks okay but sorta late to the party. Beacon is so fast compared to something probing the bed.
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that's true, but removing tap is good idea less mass less complexity. Same for V0 you have ideal first layer for one sheet and nozzle and with this thing you can swap everything and don't care about distance.
 
Well, that looks interesting.

Edit: Oo! Yes, the V0. Now it's even more interesting.
 
drpeej said:
The problem with Beacon and other Eddy current designs is that they aren't happy with powerful bed magnets (eg Mandala Rose ultra flat with magnets)
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That is true, plus for a small printer like the V0 where space is limited and you don't need a fast probe.
 
Problem with beacon is its usb and I agree with others magnets affect it. I am not sure what people have against canbus it does take a little setup but its proven and used in vehicles all over the world and you just add another device off the bus and it keeps going. Less wiring and nohub required when ports run out on the SBC.
 
3dCase said:
It looks neat but it still uses eddy currents so potentially still affected by a magnetic bed, or not?
@NoGuru if you mean nozzle contact to the bed, yes it does. Unless I miss your meaning, please elaborate?
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They are not affected by the standard magnets, only super powerful ones will affect it.
Yes, I do mean touch the bed to zero out the Z height calibration. Beacon does a great job of this.
 
lord-carlos said:
Just found this: https://e3d-online.com/blogs/news/introducing-pz-probe
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Anyone have tried it? I can't even find a youtube video that shows it.

But I like the idea.
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Also looks neat but it is adding a bunch of wires again. I am actually looking at reducing the wiring and therefor reducing potential wiring problems.
NoGuru said:
They are not affected by the standard magnets, only super powerful ones will affect it.
Yes, I do mean touch the bed to zero out the Z height calibration. Beacon does a great job of this.
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I have since seriously looked at this Cartographer 3d, and yes it does have contact also. I might go for this to be honest, after all the wiring trouble I had with my machine I am now also getting peeved by that stupid magnetic clicky probe. It is taking forever to go pick it up, probe for QGL, dock it again, do another home, go pick it up again, do 25 probes on the bed, go dock it again and hey ho, we are ready to print!
I have seen the beacon just float accross the bed and ready. I am hoping this cartographer 3d, which comes with CAN as option as well, will do this as well and shorten the waiting times.
 
3dCase said:
Also looks neat but it is adding a bunch of wires again. I am actually looking at reducing the wiring and therefor reducing potential wiring problems.

I have since seriously looked at this Cartographer 3d, and yes it does have contact also. I might go for this to be honest, after all the wiring trouble I had with my machine I am now also getting peeved by that stupid magnetic clicky probe. It is taking forever to go pick it up, probe for QGL, dock it again, do another home, go pick it up again, do 25 probes on the bed, go dock it again and hey ho, we are ready to print!
I have seen the beacon just float accross the bed and ready. I am hoping this cartographer 3d, which comes with CAN as option as well, will do this as well and shorten the waiting times.
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Yes clicky probe is slow but it is incredably precise for the Price
 
informel said:
Yes clicky probe is slow but it is incredably precise for the Price
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I don’t understand why you bring money into it tbh. As far as I am concerned there are two uses for a 3d printer, it is for work or it is for your hobby.
In both cases you can argue against the clicky, no matter how accurate for the money.
If your machine is doing paid work, a faster probe will earn you more money and without actually calculating anything, I think within weeks you earned it back and start increasing your profits.
If its for hobby, it is for your pleasure and relaxation after your day job. Again I fail to see how an accurate but cheap clicky fulfils the function of your hobby machine, if you are getting annoyed by the tedious waiting for QGL and bedmesh every time.
So no, at no time ever is the money a valid point.
 
How long does it take to probe the bed, compared to printing?

30 seconds or even 2 minutes more, over a 5+ hour print is almost no time at all......
 
QGL alone can take 2 minutes including the bed heating up. Then a homing before bedmesh which again takes 2 minutes or more. Often before it starts printing you look at 5 minutes or so. If you don’t mind, that is ok, nobody says its unacceptable. But the argument of costs is nonsensical under any circumstance. It is a personal preference which in the case of a hobby has nothing in common with money.
If you run the machines for income, like a print farm or as prototyping engineer, those 5 minutes cost money.
The money argument at best is of no importance and at worst is contradictive to the point being made.
 
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