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HaraldLenski

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Hi there,

I am kind of new in 3D Printing, I think my first step into the hobby was like in early 2025, when I bought an Anycubic Kobra S1 for like 350 bucks, which I returned to Anycubic since I wasn't satisfied with the printing quality and maintenance, which could have been my lack of knowledge of the hobby, but anyway.
A few months later, I got a Flasforge Adventurer 5M Pro for like 394 bucks, which came with some problems like whistling Fans, but I received new GDSTime Fans and a new Extruder Board from Flashforge which solved the problem.
I kept the AD5M Pro a few months and got a lotta knowledge about print settings, slicer settings, tweaks n tricks about 3D printing etc.
I love to tinker and re-test things so I scored an Anycubic Kobra S1 again for 284 bucks and hat it running next to my AD5M Pro to clarify if it was missing knowledge or it's just flawed.
Turned out that it is indeed flawed and had some things I don't really like. If you want to use it from your Computer you have to bind it to an Anycubic Account, it constantly logs what you print, how long, etc. and save it to your account. If you are writing the Anycubic Support, they gonna read through it. I doesn't have a rubber brush, it cleans the nozzle somehow with a hook on the poop exit which doesnt always work flawlessly. But the most annoying point is that it can't print certain items due to its, imo, wrongly planned airflow. I was printing a 21700 Battery Case with some overhang lips design and it always failed on the Kobra S1, no matter what, while all other printers got it even in double speed. But this aint a review, its an introduction!
So I returned the Kobra S1 anyway and due to some personal issues I had with the AD5M Pro I sold it. Also I love to try different printers, so I don't hesitate to buy and sell them.
I then got an Elegoo Centauri Carbon since I was deeper in the hobby and hyped for the Specs of the printer, I still have it and most of the time it prints fine. Except for ABS. I never got it to print ABS. Only one time of all tries it printed an ABS Benchy which was so weak it broke in half lol. The other Models (I planned to print my voron parts with the CC) became Spaghetti after like 1 min or so. No matter what Temperature, I tested up to 260°C Nozzle / 110°C Bed, let it heat soaking etc. But I gave up on ABS in the Centauri Carbon, which is why I will buy the parts from the PIF Program.
I mainly printed PETG with the Centauri Carbon which it does fine, but since its a new product, I found a lot of flaws and will probably sell it. Yesterday I noticed for example the nozzle is bent, god knows why, and I don't like the toolhead design, its not good. But then, you get what you pay for. Cheap Chinese Printers = Cheap Experience, nearly no Support and no Moddability. The CC is actually criticized for its Network Traffic Leak (Reddit), bent nozzles, firmware security issues and lying about Klipper based things.
Don't get me wrong, they do what they are designed for, if they work. You unpack it and they print. It gets hairy if you run into problems.
I am not satisfied with chinese printers because of firmware dependencies. You rely completely on the manufacturer when it comes to safety and firmware upgrades or spare parts. There is like no warranty or help if you buy overseas. They send you spare parts, you can repair it yourself. Thats it. Returning processes are annoying, they never heared of the "14 days return warranty" and if, they try to prolong it until it reaches the 14th day and say F*** you.
In the meantime I pushed the hobby forward and started to learn how to CAD to create my own things. Which is incredibly comfortable, I actually use Fusion 360.
I wanted to buy a Sovol SV08 because its "open source" but with the enclosure it costs me close to 500 or 600 bucks, depending on the sale, and for roughly 100 bucks more I can get the voron kit, so there is no question what to buy. Because it remains a chinese printer with its own flaws.

So why am I here?
I was thinking about either building a Voron or a RatRig, but heared RatRig has some availabilty problems due to the fire in their warehouse and that their part quality can be hit or miss, especially the rails and its hella expensive, so I decided to get a Voron, also because the community is bigger.
I would say I have the knowledge to build one, since I am working as a car mechanic, so may the journey begin.
The reason I want to build a voron is everything you can't achive with Chinese Printers:
Freedom, Moddability, Open Source, Quality. You can fix everything yourself, you don't rely on shady closed firmware, printers that track your habits, spare parts that aren't available and you can always mod it.
This is why I decided to buy the Formbot Kit either this or next month, spending 700 bucks and put the difference of the LDO Price in Mods.

Thank you for reading until this point, have a nice day and keep the open source spirit alive!

Harald
 
Hello (again, ;) ). If you do decide to go with a Voron build be sure to also jump on the Discord server. For me, old school forums are easier to deal with & find older posts. Discord is good for really quick assistance with a question or problem--but it's like drinking from a fire hose sometimes.
 
I have a few formbot kits, they are decent. Same with Fystetc. No problems so far on 4 vzeros, 3 2.4s, a trident and a switchwire. Doron Velta is next on my build schedule...

Tons of help out there, and in here. If you have any issues, most of us like to fix things, so bring them up and plenty of helpful people here to get it sorted.
 
I'm also fine with my Voron. The assembly in 2023 was piece of cake, modding took some reasonable time.
Nowadays Formbot's kit has already evolved to a state where I had to bring my printer to by myself.
CAN, Klicky, sensorless homing, case lights, 60W heat element.
The feature I'm still missing is the camera. With BTT Pi it looks like only USB cameras are the way to go, or better have a separate Pi Zero with cam.
Maybe the other feature I'm about to think of is the active-carbon filter (Nevermore), however there's no push to print ABS or ASA at the moment.

Should I be thinking of a 3D Printer today, I'd involve a second extruder into my thoughts.
 
After years of cruelity misery I got my first voron v2.4-350. I got it second hand so the build was not mine. Mayor headaches for months and then I decided to rip it to bits and rebuild it with canbus and chaoticlabs all metal cnc parts. Thus my moniker signature “bad wiring will ruin your day”
Now I am in the final stages of a voron zero build, also a formbot kit, and thus far nothing but praise for them. Very well labeled parts, lots of spares and everything, including printed parts from China, fits like a glove.
I hope to get the first powerup this weekend so I wish you all the best with your build. Will be looking out to the follow up!
 
Voron printers are designed by people who love designing, modifying, bulding, unbuilding, etc... but who are not printing. I got a Voron 2.4r2. More than 1000 € at the end, for a printer which is a nightmare to build, maintain, a nightmare to use and a nightmare to fine tune. Each issue switches into never ending maintenance time. If I would recommend anything to you, I would tell you to buy printers which are half price, easy to use and maintain. Voron is crap, and I will never waste my money again there.
 
Voron printers are designed by people who love designing, modifying, bulding, unbuilding, etc... but who are not printing. I got a Voron 2.4r2. More than 1000 € at the end, for a printer which is a nightmare to build, maintain, a nightmare to use and a nightmare to fine tune. Each issue switches into never ending maintenance time. If I would recommend anything to you, I would tell you to buy printers which are half price, easy to use and maintain. Voron is crap, and I will never waste my money again there.
Sorry you had a bad experience. Just a sidenote, 1000 Euro is not an end price, it's a beginning price for a good VORON build with decent components. Cheapest kit and impatient assembly may cause some issues in the long run (even in the short). There is steeper learning curve with DIY printer and software, and it's not for everyone. You correctly identified that it's not for you, and it's completely fine.
 
Voron printers are designed by people who love designing, modifying, bulding, unbuilding, etc... but who are not printing. I got a Voron 2.4r2. More than 1000 € at the end, for a printer which is a nightmare to build, maintain, a nightmare to use and a nightmare to fine tune. Each issue switches into never ending maintenance time. If I would recommend anything to you, I would tell you to buy printers which are half price, easy to use and maintain. Voron is crap, and I will never waste my money again there.
While I'm sorry you had a bad experience, I don't get why you need to spend your precious time in life to write a rant about something you doesn't like. Take a walk, touch grass, pet a dog, go do something you appreciate instead of losing time with internet strangers.

I also want to remember that a DIY printer is as good as the person builds it. Understand that however you will.
 
Voron printers are designed by people who love designing, modifying, bulding, unbuilding, etc... but who are not printing. I got a Voron 2.4r2. More than 1000 € at the end, for a printer which is a nightmare to build, maintain, a nightmare to use and a nightmare to fine tune. Each issue switches into never ending maintenance time. If I would recommend anything to you, I would tell you to buy printers which are half price, easy to use and maintain. Voron is crap, and I will never waste my money again there.
I know excactly what you are talking about, because I got a second hand voron from a guy just like you.
Everything was wrong, except the off the shelf parts you can buy.
He printed his own parts which were terrible.
He built it out of square so bad, you could see it without using an engineer’s square and the bed was not parallel with the axis’
Klicky swich wobbled on skewed magnets, causing all sorts of trouble, and finally he used the wrong cables to run inside the cablechains, which made them break all the time.
My first three months were like your nightmare my friend, but then I decided it was enough and I rebuilt the thing.
I can safely say it runs like a swiss watch and there are times it runs 24/7 due to projects I started.
Don’t blame something you built wrong yourself. Learn from it, take it back apart and follow the superb instructions while you rebuild it.
Don’t isolate yourself, if you don’t understand something, come back here and ask. There is no better place on the internet for asking help on a voron.
But you need to improve your bedside manners because ranting gets you nowhere.
For rants you are better of on facebook or reddit!
 
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