All Metal 2.4 350mm Build with Chaoticlab Kits

[3dCase]

I think I have some low from seasonal disorder or something. I still have not finished my almost totally built voron zero. I did get some metal parts for the toolhead and basically all I need to do is the firmware klipper macros and run it, but I simply cannot find the will for about 3 months now
I am following your progress with interest however, and hope you are doing better these days and that your problem with your hand has improved?

 

[MichaelOToole]

Left hand not great but at least I can still use my thumb and index finger, good job the right hand is almost normal, else I just waster a lot of cash.

I keep telling myself to sort out the mess and make a start on the build, but then I find something else to do...
This is also know as Vivaldi Syndrome (my invention), being lazy resulting from illness and/or lack of exercise and/or lack of energy, tends to last a period of one year (Four Seasons)

 

[Loki]

Is this even a build at this point when you buy everything prefabbed in a kit? Aren't you actually just screwing parts together at this point? What is the price difference if you would follow the voron BOM and self source everything and actually build yourself by following the build guide? Like do cut drill tap your own extrusion even. Cuz I'm about to do it that way but if it's not much cheaper than I'll take the easy route for sure, I'm not doing it for the experience, I built plenty of printers that print better than the most expensive consumer printers already before voron was a name. If it costs no more I'm happy to "cheat".

 

[NoGuru]

Is this even a build at this point when you buy everything prefabbed in a kit? Aren't you actually just screwing parts together at this point? What is the price difference if you would follow the voron BOM and self source everything and actually build yourself by following the build guide? Like do cut drill tap your own extrusion even. Cuz I'm about to do it that way but if it's not much cheaper than I'll take the easy route for sure, I'm not doing it for the experience, I built plenty of printers that print better than the most expensive consumer printers already before voron was a name. If it costs no more I'm happy to "cheat".

I'm not sure I follow what you are trying to convey here.
Yes it's a build. Anything you put together is. I think what Michael is doing is just building it with the parts he wants, and not what is in the standard build. Its the same way I build a printer.
We all get something out a a build be it, to make parts, the fun of tinkering or even coding.

 

[3dCase]

Is this even a build at this point when you buy everything prefabbed in a kit? Aren't you actually just screwing parts together at this point? What is the price difference if you would follow the voron BOM and self source everything and actually build yourself by following the build guide? Like do cut drill tap your own extrusion even. Cuz I'm about to do it that way but if it's not much cheaper than I'll take the easy route for sure, I'm not doing it for the experience, I built plenty of printers that print better than the most expensive consumer printers already before voron was a name. If it costs no more I'm happy to "cheat".

It is totally the same as a build when you follow the bom lists. Nothing comes prefabbed and there is no cheating. The kit takes the need for self sourcing away, or partially. You are still doing all of the building, wiring and firmware building.

 

[MichaelOToole]

Back in 2016/17 I went down the route of designing and building a 3d printer from scratch, I'm not about to do all of that again...

Obviously at that time you could not order ready made parts or kits, you could however get brackets, fasteners, extrusions, motors etc...
Part delivery (mainly from China) was in the order of one to three months, make a mistake or change the design and add months to the build...

Over a four months period I built the 400x400mm frame from 20x20mm and 20x40mm extrusions (mixed for added structural strength)...
I had originally intended for the Bed to be stationary as in the current 2.4 and make the gantry mobile in X, Y and Z, so with this in mind I started playing around with the design...

Now to this equation we have to add one vital fact, I'm an Engineer, I change my designs every time I spot a potential improvement but each change/improvement can result in requiring new parts and the associated delay involved, suffice to say, it became more important to build better than to finish it. As a result, I never finished my printer, the 3d printer designscape was improving faster that I could get parts...

Basically, this is my mindset and why I use Kits...